Can you be Pro choice and be against Partial birth abortions?
I am a pro choice democrat but partial birth abortions are definitely murder and should be illegal. Early term abortions should stay legal. Its the women’s womb and she can do what ever she wants its not the government’s decision its hers. It should be a moral decision, not a political one. If she believes that. She is entitled to hers just as anyone else is entitled to theirs.
I was just wondering if its okay to be a democrat and be against partial birth abortions.
I am doing a report for my sociology class.
I hope this question doesn’t sound ignorant I am just a college student who is still figuring out what my believes are.
I heard that young teenage girls who have a higher risk of dying during labor because the reproductive system isn’t strong enough yet. I think that its their choice If they want to keep the baby its fine but if they want an abortion thats fine too.
October 1st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Of course.
October 1st, 2010 at 4:35 pm
yes
October 1st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
It’s “okay” to be a Democrat and be for or against anything.
October 1st, 2010 at 6:14 pm
sure you can have any beliefs you want to
October 1st, 2010 at 7:11 pm
i am pro choice and against partial abortions.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Why would you care? Is it your baby being aborted? Why is this your business?
October 1st, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I believe so.
I’m actually the same way. I’m a registered Democrat, and I’m pro-choice, but I feel partial birth abortions are crossing a serious line. I feel there’s a distinct difference between the two.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
You can be anything you want.
You don’t really understand partial birth abortion if you are thinking people have them like birth control. There are no doctors that perform partial birth abortions just because someone doesn’t want to be pregnant. Partial birth abortions are done for medical reasons.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Absolutely.
Partial birth abortions are a very controversial procedure, which are hardly ever preformed.
Just because you believe that women have the right to choose, doesn’t mean you actually LIKE abortion.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
It’s “ok” to believe whatever you want regardless of your political party, I suppose. I’m a Republican and I don’t think abortions are the best option but I don’t want big government so I wouldn’t vote for abortions to be illegal. However, I don’t see your logic in believing a few months makes a difference when it comes to abortions. A fetus is a fetus. Where do we draw the line? There is only 1 day seperating the first trimester from the second.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Yesssssssssss
those babies have the ability to RECOGNIZE SPEECH BEFORE THEY’RE BORN!
I just saw a news report on how you’re supposed to read to your baby in utero because they can learn ever earlier than thought!
October 1st, 2010 at 11:07 pm
you can be a democrat and either be pro choice or anti-abortion just like you can be a republican and be pro choice or anti abortion. its just one of the issues we deal with everyday.
if you want to be a democrat or a republican, the choice is yours, as well as the chioce to pick and choose what issues you support and which you oppose.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:41 pm
No you can’t.
And if’s it’s the womans womb then you also have to be able to say it’s the womans body and “she can do what she wants”
Murder is murder, no matter what way it happens.
You obviously have a brain to even realize partial birth abortion is murder, please, USE it for a greater good.
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 am
You can be “pro choice” and against ALL abortions. Pro choice is just that. You’re in favor of someone having a CHOICE. It is independent of your stand on abortions. Partial Birth or otherwise.
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:52 am
1. Saying youre a Democrat is like saying youre a Christian – it means different things to different people and each person has their own unique set of beliefs under those ones held in common.
2. “Partial birth abortions” do not exist. It is a term coined by the far right to scare people. It certainly sounds awful doesn’t it. It’s made up to unite people against a common evil – killing babies. Doctors do not kill babies that are partially born.
3. Late-term abortions (after the first trimester) are performed only as medically necessary.
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 am
You can be against anything you want, this IS America.
If someone don’t want an abortion, DON’T GET ONE.
If someone is getting an abortion, IT IS NOBODY ELSE’S BUSINESS.
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 am
There is a wide spectrum of opinion regarding abortion and it’s perfectly ok to subscribe to any of them. There are pro-life Democrats and pro-choice Republicans out there. They generally just don’t see it as the only important issue. Good luck on the report
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 am
You can believe whatever you want. There are no rules stating that you have to vote straight down party lines. I am a Pro Choice Conservative. Although, partial birth is horrendous and inhumane.
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:44 am
Yes, it is.
October 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 am
I think you answered your own question. Personally, once a baby draws a breath, its alive. Thats my line, others have their own.
Imho, morality and politics are intertwined, they always will be.
If you want to drink and drive (for example), you can, its just not legal (or moral).
Me? Totally Pro-life, cynical, and conservative.
October 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 am
It’s fine to believe in what you want to. It’s a free country after all!
I myself am a Democrat and I am pro-choice. But I do think it’s going to far with partial abortions unless the mother’s life is on the line.
October 2nd, 2010 at 4:47 am
Sounds like you are so…um… yes? Honestly everyone has different views on abortion. To think that there are only two sides is silly. That is why there is so much conflict on the issue.
If you agree with freedom of choice at any time you are considered pro choice. To disagree with a brutal practice does not make you pro life but in my opinion rational.
So yes. You can still proudly claim pro choice even if you disagree with partial birth abortions.
October 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 am
Yes, absolutely. Abortion is a complicated issue; it’s obvious the child has to become a “person” at some point, so if you believe it happens at, say, 24 weeks (which is the cut-off point for abortions in the UK), then it’s perfectly reasonable to say that’s when it becomes murder and so that’s when it becomes not ok.
I’m kind of the same. I don’t know, scientifically, when a foetus becomes a human, and personally I don’t know if I could have an abortion past about 12 weeks. But I don’t think the government has any business making that decision for us; if there’s no real consensus on when a foetus becomes a human then why should they decide, and if there is, like with 24 weeks in the UK, then there’s your obvious cut-off point legally.
But like I said, it’s complicated, no one knows the answer, which is why it’s perfectly intellectually sound to have a nuanced or even slightly contracdictory position on this.
October 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
My stomach and my lungs are my personal property. The government shouldn’t tell me that I can’t smoke or eat trans fats.
If they have to keep their hands off your uterus, they should keep their hands off my gut!
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
In both early-term and later-term abortions, you’re still killing an unborn baby. It’s just that the baby is slightly more developed when you do a partial birth abortion than at the early-term abortions (but even at the early-term, the baby is perfectly formed).
No, I don’t think you can be for early abortions, but against partial-birth abortions. They are both excruciatingly horrible and the unborn baby dies in both procedures.
A woman may have the right to do what she does with her body, but the fact is, the unborn baby is not a part of a woman’s body! It is a separate human being and the woman should have no right to kill that baby!
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:41 am
The so-called ‘partial birth’ abortion is an extremely rare operation performed only to save the life of a woman in her third trimester. It’s actually called an ‘intact dilation and extraction’ and was used in less than 0.2% of terminations – about 1,700 in every million.
This issue was used as a wedge for the Republican party to win votes – when in fact, this was simply an interference in the management of a woman’s health.
No doctor WANTS to use this procedure; and no mother wants it done. It was only ever used in emergency situations.
The fact is, the fetus is NOT able to sustain life outside the womb at this point – if it were, no doctor could have performed this procedure.
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
You can even be Pro Choice and not believe in it at all for yourself.
October 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
absolutely ok! I am a democrat and also a catholic; and yet, I have my own belief system. (I believe in pro-choice and also believe in divorce. Why should two people stay married, if circumstances indicate abuse, etc.) Since it is normally the primary responsibility of the mother to raise the child, I believe that it should be hers, and hers alone, decision to have an abortion or not. Of course, abstinence and protection are the best approaches to avoiding this situation; but, we all know that “things happen” and we have to go to Plan B.
It is wrong to ask a teenage girl, or a rape victim, to have a full-term pregnancy. I personally do not believe that an early term abortion is actually a “life” yet.
October 2nd, 2010 at 7:39 am
No matter what stage of pregnancy it’s still murder.
October 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
Yes, partial birth abortions are murder.
October 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
Any abortion is murder.
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
yes that is fine 🙂
Good luck on your report.
October 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 am
Your question implies that abortion is a “all or nothing” situation, which clearly would be irrational. (your question.. not you). Life does not work like that. Of course it is totally possible to be “pro choice” AND anti “partial birth” abortion.
Explanation.. the legality of abortion has been ruled on by the Supreme court. This means that the Constitution protects the right of a woman to determine HER definition. You have the anti abortion persons who define abortion as murder, but that is a personal view and NOT the legal definition. Do I support or promote abortion? No. I support the law and the authority of the Supreme court. I don’t impose my view on others.
The partial birth hysteria comes down to an attempted distortion against Obama. If you do your homework.. the state of Illinois already had laws concerning this situation, when someone attempted to pass new legislation that would have been in conflict with the original law, and led to disputes over the intent. Thinking from a legislative view.. it is pure stupidity to have 2 laws on the same topic, when those laws would lead to court disputes. THAT IS WHY HE VOTED AGAINST the second proposed law. NOT because he promotes “partial birth abortion” or letting babies die. NO doctor would allow such a thing to happen. A child born alive would get treatment.
Please be careful of internet sites who give false information, and attempt to manipulate your thinking.